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May. 22nd, 2016 06:04 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
fufaraw...and oh yeah, spoilers from JIB, if that's a thing for you.
With all the commentary from J2 that's come out of JIB, I'm feeling sort of vindicated about the last four seasons--no, I didn't imagine it, and no, I'm not the only one, and yes, they *have* been paying attention, and they feel the same way. This all arose from watching the video fans recorded at JIB and generously shared online. No I wasn't actually there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXRgZ91yIe4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDL0hOrzjQQ
Jensen made some pretty bald statements, "Dean is an emotionally engaged character (by inference, Sam is not)," and "Jared's been phoning it in for four years", suggesting that since the Carver administration tanked Sam's search for Dean in purgatory, there hasn't been much for Sam to do, or for Jared to play. He immediately said, "I'm just kidding," and then "No, I'm really not." and "I feel like I just commited blasphemy," whether he meant making the comment about Jared, or not toeing the line of PR from the show's producers, or both. He then sat down to try and pick delicately through a legally actionable minefield to explain his comments. At another time, he said, "We know you guys are patient. The hope is, in Season twelve, you won't have to be."
So there you go.
Jared said there were scenes written, and some filmed, that were cut for time--Sam again taking low priority to where the director, showrunner, producers, wanted the storyline to go. He felt "sorta sad" that those scenes weren't aired, because they helped explain Sam's headspace, and a lot about his fear and terror of Lucifer, his reactions and (I'm inferring from what he said) lingering trauma to all that Sam's been through.
It appears to me that, with Carver's departure, and the network CEO on board, and new contracts negotiated, the actors may have used their continued participation as a barganing chip for more control of the storyline. I would certainly hope if that possibility existed, that they took advantage of it.
Jared also said that the actors--Jensen, Misha, Mark, Ruth, Rob, and himself, did sit and discuss the storylines, get into motivations and possible outcomes and far-reaching consequences, continuity, things that have been set up previously that they, as well as we, would like to see pay off.
He also complimented the Italian audience for paying attention and asking these sorts of questions, that he and, presumably, the other actors, appreciate viewer involvement and investment in the story. Which made me feel wistful. It's always seemed that both Jared and Jensen open up at JIB--they speak more freely, and there has been news that's broken there first, before it did in the US. And also, it makes me wistful that he doesn't seem to feel that the US audience is involved in the story, or that we have, loyal to the characters and the show, suffered through bad scripts and terrible character assassination for the last few years, or that we've even noticed.
In any case, I have some renewed hope for the finale, and for the coming season. I may be a fool, but hope is nice to have, after such a long drought.
With all the commentary from J2 that's come out of JIB, I'm feeling sort of vindicated about the last four seasons--no, I didn't imagine it, and no, I'm not the only one, and yes, they *have* been paying attention, and they feel the same way. This all arose from watching the video fans recorded at JIB and generously shared online. No I wasn't actually there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXRgZ91yIe4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDL0hOrzjQQ
Jensen made some pretty bald statements, "Dean is an emotionally engaged character (by inference, Sam is not)," and "Jared's been phoning it in for four years", suggesting that since the Carver administration tanked Sam's search for Dean in purgatory, there hasn't been much for Sam to do, or for Jared to play. He immediately said, "I'm just kidding," and then "No, I'm really not." and "I feel like I just commited blasphemy," whether he meant making the comment about Jared, or not toeing the line of PR from the show's producers, or both. He then sat down to try and pick delicately through a legally actionable minefield to explain his comments. At another time, he said, "We know you guys are patient. The hope is, in Season twelve, you won't have to be."
So there you go.
Jared said there were scenes written, and some filmed, that were cut for time--Sam again taking low priority to where the director, showrunner, producers, wanted the storyline to go. He felt "sorta sad" that those scenes weren't aired, because they helped explain Sam's headspace, and a lot about his fear and terror of Lucifer, his reactions and (I'm inferring from what he said) lingering trauma to all that Sam's been through.
It appears to me that, with Carver's departure, and the network CEO on board, and new contracts negotiated, the actors may have used their continued participation as a barganing chip for more control of the storyline. I would certainly hope if that possibility existed, that they took advantage of it.
Jared also said that the actors--Jensen, Misha, Mark, Ruth, Rob, and himself, did sit and discuss the storylines, get into motivations and possible outcomes and far-reaching consequences, continuity, things that have been set up previously that they, as well as we, would like to see pay off.
He also complimented the Italian audience for paying attention and asking these sorts of questions, that he and, presumably, the other actors, appreciate viewer involvement and investment in the story. Which made me feel wistful. It's always seemed that both Jared and Jensen open up at JIB--they speak more freely, and there has been news that's broken there first, before it did in the US. And also, it makes me wistful that he doesn't seem to feel that the US audience is involved in the story, or that we have, loyal to the characters and the show, suffered through bad scripts and terrible character assassination for the last few years, or that we've even noticed.
In any case, I have some renewed hope for the finale, and for the coming season. I may be a fool, but hope is nice to have, after such a long drought.
